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Subject: Wedge Rotation
From: Hans Terkelsen
Date: 2/3/2007 2:37:47 PM
"Narasimham" <mathma18@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1168589454.987901.196770@l5
3g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> A wedge of angle of 6 degrees is mounted on another wedge of 10
> degrees. Wedge sides are placed together resulting in an effective
> wedge angle gamma as sum 16 degrees and as difference 4 degrees when
> laid opposite after wedge rotation angle theta = 180 degrees. Find
> theta for gamma = 10 degrees.
>
> Narasimham
Hi Narasimham.
That's a nice practical way of getting any slope between sum and difference of the
wedge angles.
I find it not so easy to be sure that we have the same definitions.
Would you agree, that two 45° wedges at right angles give a slope of 60°?
Then using the cos relation from spherical geometry
cos(slope)=cos(16)*cos(10)-sin(16)*sin(10)*cos(10 the rotation) gives
slope, gamma, 15.94°
Hans
Subject: Wedge Rotation
From: Hans Terkelsen
Date: 2/4/2007 11:01:56 PM
"Avni Pllana" <avniu66@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:21361640.1170526613573.Java
Mail.jakarta@nitrogen.mathforum.org...
> > On Jan 28, 1:23 am, Avni Pllana <avni...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > A wedge of angle of 6 degrees is mounted on
> > another
> > > > wedge of 10
> > > > degrees. Wedge sides are placed together
> > resulting in
> > > > an effective
> > > > wedge angle gamma as sum 16 degrees and as
> > difference
> > > > 4 degrees when
> > > > laid opposite after wedge rotation angle theta =
> > 180
> > > > degrees. Find
> > > > theta for gamma = 10 degrees.
> > >
> > > > Narasimham
> > >
> > > Hi Narasimham,
> > >
> > > Can you post a drawing that illustrates the
> > problem.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Avni
> >
> > Perhaps I should mention the blocks are trapezium
> > prisms:
> >
> > http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2691/wedgerotnoy0.j
> > pg
> >
> > Narasimham
>
>
> Hi Narasimham,
>
> Thank you for the drawing. Then according to the problem definition we have
>
> cos(gamma) = cos(10°)*cos(6°)-cos(theta)*sin(10°)*sin(6°),
>
> or
>
> theta = acos(cos(10°)*(cos(6°)-1)/(sin(10°)*sin(6°))),
>
> = 107.2906633°.
>
> Best regards,
> Avni
Avni, you are right, I think.
I misread the post.
Hans.
Subject: Wedge Rotation
From: Hans Terkelsen
Date: 2/5/2007 3:50:33 PM
"Narasimham" <mathma18@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1170614797.012270.228760@v3
3g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 3, 7:37 pm, "Hans Terkelsen" <d...@dreader2.cybercity.dk>
> wrote:
> > "Narasimham" <mathm...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168589454.987901.
196770@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > A wedge of angle of 6 degrees is mounted on another wedge of 10
> > > degrees. Wedge sides are placed together resulting in an effective
> > > wedge angle gamma as sum 16 degrees and as difference 4 degrees when
> > > laid opposite after wedge rotation angle theta = 180 degrees. Find
> > > theta for gamma = 10 degrees.
> >
> > > Narasimham
> >
> > Hi Narasimham.
> >
> > That's a nice practical way of getting any slope between sum and difference
of the wedge angles.
> >
> > I find it not so easy to be sure that we have the same definitions.
> > Would you agree, that two 45° wedges at right angles give a slope of 60°?
>
> No.
>
> > Then using the cos relation from spherical geometry
>
> Why should the cos relation from spherical geometry be relevant here?
>
> > cos(slope)=cos(16)*cos(10)-sin(16)*sin(10)*cos(10 the rotation) gives
> > slope, gamma, 15.94°
>
> The wedges are 10,6 degrees, but not 16,10 degrees.
>
> > Hans
>
> Narasimham
>
Sorry, Narasimham, I misread your post.
As to why the cos relation seems to be relevant:
The pole of the plane is moving from vertical in a spherical triangle, 10 degrees,
as you said, turning theta, then moving 6
degrees.
The resulting move from vertical, gamma, is obtained from a spherical triangle with
side 10 degrees, angle 180-theta, side 6
degrees, by the cos relation for example.
But since you disagree with the crossed 45 degree wedges giving 60 degrees, I may
still be on the wrong track.
Greetings, Hans.
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