Hello folks, Regarding a message sent by Mr. Brett Nichols, the provided link is broken. Further information on that subject can be found at the following links: http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36059 http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12721 http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=75131 Hard evidence of koryu names being registered as trademarks can be found by searching the public records of the Argentine "National Institute of Intellectual Property" (INPI, Instituto Nacional de Propiedad Intelectual). Run the following Google search: site:inpi.gov.ar oscar cirone The first two results are PDF files for the official records, if you search "Cirone, Oscar" across them you'll find the registries of Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu Iai Jutsu, the Komei Juku mon (Komei Sekiguchi family's mon) and also the registration of the words "Niten Ichiryu" and "Suio Ryu". This man trains in a branch of MJER, but not in Niten Ichi ryu nor Suio ryu. Those are facts (just the tip of the iceberg, there are lots of unkown dark things as well in that school but that doesn't belong here). Interpretation and conclusions are up to you. Best regards, Julian Dupuy Legal disclaimer for "you know who": I'm just providing publicly available official records. Keep the silly legal threats for shmucks who fear you. You can change your settings and leave the list at: http://listserv.uoguelph.ca/archives/ia ido-l.html