CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign to become the first female U.S. president, announcing Saturday on her website, "I'm in. And I'm in to win." The 59-year-old Democratic New York senator said she was forming an "exploratory committee" to run for president and wanted input from the public on key issues. "Let's talk about how to bring the right end to the war in Iraq and to restore respect for America around the world, how to make us energy independent and free of foreign oil and let's definitely talk about how every American can have quality affordable health care." Among many voters, Clinton is best known for her disastrous attempt in 1993 to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. A few days ago, Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, shook up the 2008 race with his bid to become the first African-American to occupy the White House. Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first Hispanic to pursue the office, intends to announce his plans on Sunday. Clinton's husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from 1993-2001. Saturday's announcement is the latest step in a remarkable political and personal journey for Hillary Clinton from Arkansas lawyer to first lady to New York senator to projected front-runner for the Democratic nomination. A polarizing figure since she burst onto the national scene during her husband's first presidential campaign, Clinton engenders strong opinions among voters, who either revere or revile her, but are rarely ambivalent. She is often compared to her husband and found lacking in his natural charisma. Others have criticized her for being overly cautious and calculating when so many voters say they crave authenticity. Many Democrats, eager to reclaim the White House after eight years of President George W. Bush, fret that she carries too much baggage from her husband's scandal-plagued presidency to win a general election. Supporters cite strong work ethic Clinton's allies counter by citing her strengths intelligence, depth of experience, work ethic and immense command of policy detail. Advisers argue those skills, plus her popularity among women and younger voters, position her strongly as both a primary and general election candidate. In her first run for the Senate from New York in 2000 a state where she had never lived and where she was branded a carpetbagger by many Clinton won a landslide victory. Through dogged campaigning including a "listening tour" of the state's 62 counties Clinton was able to convince voters even in the conservative upstate region that she would represent them effectively in Washington. Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing military force in Iraq has become a significant political challenge angering activists who want her to repudiate her vote and aggressively seek to block Bush's proposed troop increase. She has toughened her criticism of the conduct of the war and Bush's handling of the conflict, and she recently called for capping troop levels in Iraq at around 140,000. She has rejected calls from liberal groups to cut off funds for Bush's planned increase in U.S. troops.

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid Well, I'm confident that Obama has a snowball's chance in a forest fire of ending up there; just because of his racial background (this isn't Fox's TV show "24", where they've already had 2 black presidents and not a single woman yet!). Geese! If you recall when Kennedy ran, the fact that he was a Catholic was an issue! The US electorate is a finicky thing which doesn't take kindly to change all that well. Obama also doesn't have the chops for the role as yet either. Hillary has been on the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a while, not to mention a few other ones which put her in a better position than Obama, who has almost no experience in areas of foreign affairs in his career. She's also got the recognition factor going for her. On the other hand, I haven't heard much about who the Republicans will put up. It it's Noot, we might as well glue the Whitehouse toilet seats down now! :) But, what do I know? Like you, I'm a Canuck.

None of it would have happened if Bill never got that blow job. So much for feminism, eh? "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign to become > the first female U.S. president, announcing Saturday on her website, "I'm > in. And I'm in to win." > > The 59-year-old Democratic New York senator said she was forming an > "exploratory committee" to run for president and wanted input from the > public on key issues. > > "Let's talk about how to bring the right end to the war in Iraq and to > restore respect for America around the world, how to make us energy > independent and free of foreign oil and let's definitely talk about how > every American can have quality affordable health care." > > Among many voters, Clinton is best known for her disastrous attempt in > 1993 to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. > > A few days ago, Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, shook up > the 2008 race with his bid to become the first African-American to occupy > the White House. > > Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first > Hispanic to pursue the office, intends to announce his plans on Sunday. > > Clinton's husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from > 1993-2001. > > Saturday's announcement is the latest step in a remarkable political and > personal journey for Hillary Clinton from Arkansas lawyer to first lady > to New York senator to projected front-runner for the Democratic > nomination. > > A polarizing figure since she burst onto the national scene during her > husband's first presidential campaign, Clinton engenders strong opinions > among voters, who either revere or revile her, but are rarely ambivalent. > > She is often compared to her husband and found lacking in his natural > charisma. Others have criticized her for being overly cautious and > calculating when so many voters say they crave authenticity. > > Many Democrats, eager to reclaim the White House after eight years of > President George W. Bush, fret that she carries too much baggage from her > husband's scandal-plagued presidency to win a general election. > > Supporters cite strong work ethic > > Clinton's allies counter by citing her strengths intelligence, depth of > experience, work ethic and immense command of policy detail. > > Advisers argue those skills, plus her popularity among women and younger > voters, position her strongly as both a primary and general election > candidate. > > In her first run for the Senate from New York in 2000 a state where she > had never lived and where she was branded a carpetbagger by many Clinton > won a landslide victory. > > Through dogged campaigning including a "listening tour" of the state's 62 > counties Clinton was able to convince voters even in the conservative > upstate region that she would represent them effectively in Washington. > > Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing military force in Iraq has become a > significant political challenge angering activists who want her to > repudiate her vote and aggressively seek to block Bush's proposed troop > increase. > > She has toughened her criticism of the conduct of the war and Bush's > handling of the conflict, and she recently called for capping troop levels > in Iraq at around 140,000. > > She has rejected calls from liberal groups to cut off funds for Bush's > planned increase in U.S. troops. > >

"Rab" <rable@rouser.haha> wrote in message news:6fvsh.724822$1T2.413337@pd7urf2no... > None of it would have happened if Bill never got that blow job. So much for > feminism, eh? I think that the fact Hillary stuck it out with Bill after such an embarrassing episode demonstrates one of the following things: She's a good Christian who knows that forgiveness is next to Godliness or She's a long-term thinker who knew that divorcing him would damage her future political career. Me? I think the latter is more the case over the former.

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid Oh goody... a protectionist anti-Canadian... no thanks.

"Chom Noamsky" <e@t.me> wrote in message news:hZwsh.149287$rv4.137253@edtnps90... > "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... >> CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 >> >> Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > Oh goody... a protectionist anti-Canadian... no thanks. > The fact still is that Bush is still better for Canada than Kerry would have been. I don't like Bush and I'm more left than right politically. But the facts speak for themselves. Kerry's opinions during the 2004 election regarding jobs in the USA were protectionist. Some liberals may decry free trade, but now that we're well past the 1992 introduction of the FTA and NAFTA, a US government that's into protectionism is a big pain. Bush may be an asshole, but there are few economists who doubt that Kerry would have been a disaster for us owing to what he said during the 2004 campaign.

"Term Limits Now" <jerry_jn@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1169332734.874341.296020@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> or > >> She's a long-term thinker who knew that divorcing him would damage >> her future political career. >> >> Me? I think the latter is more the case over the former. > > Very true. Hillary does nothing which is not directed for her > political gain. Which included staying with Bill. > > > "You know after six years of George Bush, it is time to > renew the promise of America," Clinton says in a videotaped > message in which she invites voters to begin a dialogue with > her on the major issues - health care, Social Security and > Medicare, and the war in Iraq." - Hillary R. Clinton, Jan 2007 > > Looks like the Ice Queen is serious about a return trip to the > Whitehouse. And running on major issues which are set to hose the tax > paying middle class. > > Health Care means HillaryCare, and placing the federal government in > charge of all health care. Granted, health care in this nation is a > mess; and turning it over to bureaucrats will somehow make this better? > Don't bet on it. Granted, this will not be an issue if you are wealthy > enough to pay for private health care. Except that the HillaryCare > proposal made participation mandatory. (With the exception of Congress > and their families and staff. Who will continue to enjoy the best > health care our tax dollars can provide). I remember in 2000 when Bush (before becoming President) said something like "I'm not into foreign affairs" and that he was someone who would be a change agent for many of the domestic issues which the US has faced, like your Social Security system's problem, your health care problem, crime and poverty. All that has taken a back seat, for obvious reasons.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha -- Terry Pearson http://www.rightpoint.org Shaping Canada's Destiny Dimwit Deilly's latest: Educated people don't drink coffee at Tim Horton's The Wisdom of Wajid Khan 'Tis better to soar with eagles, then to sit and squawk with the seagulls. "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign to become > the first female U.S. president, announcing Saturday on her website, "I'm > in. And I'm in to win." > > The 59-year-old Democratic New York senator said she was forming an > "exploratory committee" to run for president and wanted input from the > public on key issues. > > "Let's talk about how to bring the right end to the war in Iraq and to > restore respect for America around the world, how to make us energy > independent and free of foreign oil and let's definitely talk about how > every American can have quality affordable health care." > > Among many voters, Clinton is best known for her disastrous attempt in > 1993 to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. > > A few days ago, Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, shook up > the 2008 race with his bid to become the first African-American to occupy > the White House. > > Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first > Hispanic to pursue the office, intends to announce his plans on Sunday. > > Clinton's husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from > 1993-2001. > > Saturday's announcement is the latest step in a remarkable political and > personal journey for Hillary Clinton from Arkansas lawyer to first lady > to New York senator to projected front-runner for the Democratic > nomination. > > A polarizing figure since she burst onto the national scene during her > husband's first presidential campaign, Clinton engenders strong opinions > among voters, who either revere or revile her, but are rarely ambivalent. > > She is often compared to her husband and found lacking in his natural > charisma. Others have criticized her for being overly cautious and > calculating when so many voters say they crave authenticity. > > Many Democrats, eager to reclaim the White House after eight years of > President George W. Bush, fret that she carries too much baggage from her > husband's scandal-plagued presidency to win a general election. > > Supporters cite strong work ethic > > Clinton's allies counter by citing her strengths intelligence, depth of > experience, work ethic and immense command of policy detail. > > Advisers argue those skills, plus her popularity among women and younger > voters, position her strongly as both a primary and general election > candidate. > > In her first run for the Senate from New York in 2000 a state where she > had never lived and where she was branded a carpetbagger by many Clinton > won a landslide victory. > > Through dogged campaigning including a "listening tour" of the state's 62 > counties Clinton was able to convince voters even in the conservative > upstate region that she would represent them effectively in Washington. > > Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing military force in Iraq has become a > significant political challenge angering activists who want her to > repudiate her vote and aggressively seek to block Bush's proposed troop > increase. > > She has toughened her criticism of the conduct of the war and Bush's > handling of the conflict, and she recently called for capping troop levels > in Iraq at around 140,000. > > She has rejected calls from liberal groups to cut off funds for Bush's > planned increase in U.S. troops. > >

My biggest fear is the GOP won't take her seriously enough. She'll do to McCain or Giuliani what her husband did to Dole. Only a Condi+Newt ticket can beat Hillary+Obama. Newt is Cheney and Rove wrapped into one. - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]

<vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote in message news:eouc0s$1nh$11@reader2.panix.com... > My biggest fear is the GOP won't take her seriously enough. > > She'll do to McCain or Giuliani what her husband did to Dole. > > Only a Condi+Newt ticket can beat Hillary+Obama. > > Newt is Cheney and Rove wrapped into one. I'm already making "Noot for 8" T shirts. There is an impending merchandising contract with World Net Daily, Fox News and Newsmax. Their made by shoeless slaves in China who create 10,000 metric tonnes of greenhouse gasses through their farts! I think I'm going to be a millionaire! :)

"Tom" wrote > I'm already making "Noot for 8" T shirts. > > There is an impending merchandising contract with World Net Daily, Fox News > and Newsmax. > > Their made by shoeless slaves in China who create 10,000 metric tonnes of > greenhouse gasses through their farts! > > I think I'm going to be a millionaire! :) > I really wish that Donald Trump would stop posting here.

"Frederick Bolton" <frederick.bolton@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:51frcjF1kajsuU1@mid.individual.net... > > "Tom" wrote > >> I'm already making "Noot for 8" T shirts. >> >> There is an impending merchandising contract with World Net Daily, Fox News >> and Newsmax. >> >> Their made by shoeless slaves in China who create 10,000 metric tonnes of >> greenhouse gasses through their farts! >> >> I think I'm going to be a millionaire! :) >> > > I really wish that Donald Trump would stop posting here. > ROTFLMAO!

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message news:rSysh.62851$qO4.40520@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... > vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote: > >> Only a Condi+Newt ticket can beat Hillary+Obama. >> Newt is Cheney and Rove wrapped into one. > > Cheney and Rove are unelectable... so is Newter. The O'Reilly / Coulter ticket is go!

"ngocchung" <ngocchung@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:bqzsh.366$4H1.79@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >. The jungle never has two female Tigers (White house and House speaker). The >American will weigh and consider it. if it happens perhaps, there is a Big >Problem for America.Cheers ./. It would kind of "rock" if they allowed "foreigners" to run for President. I think that the Austrian born Governor of California (Republican) and (the female, Democrat) Canadian born Governor of Michigan facing off for the Presidency of the USA would be funny as Hell!

>> or >> She's a long-term thinker who knew that divorcing him would damage >> her future political career. >> >> Me? I think the latter is more the case over the former. "Term Limits Now" (jerry_jn@hotmail.com) writes: > Very true. Hillary does nothing which is not directed for her > political gain. Which included staying with Bill. (K): She didn't "stay with Bill". She has a separate home, a separate office, and a separate life. He dates. She dates. The fact that they have remained on friendly terms - which I suspect means he gives her a whole lot of advice re: the politics in Washington - is a credit to them both. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I will feel equality has arrived when we can elect to office women who are as incompetent as some of the men who are already there. - M. Reagan """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"Tom" <tom.whelan_remove@rogers.com> wrote in message news:eou0ev$olp$1@news.datemas.de... > > "Rab" <rable@rouser.haha> wrote in message > news:6fvsh.724822$1T2.413337@pd7urf2no... > > None of it would have happened if Bill never got that blow job. So much for > > feminism, eh? > > > I think that the fact Hillary stuck it out with Bill after such an embarrassing > episode demonstrates one of the following things: > > She's a good Christian who knows that forgiveness is next to Godliness > Those who know her claim she's heavy into astronomy, occultism and talking to the dead, and her hubby is a skull and bones member, so you can safely cross that one out. > or > > She's a long-term thinker who knew that divorcing him would damage her future > political career. > > Me? I think the latter is more the case over the former. You nailed it.... There are actually few real Christians in politics, and those claiming to be Christian use it as a means to power, in much the same way the leaders of the Roman Empire used it. There is one person running for president that I am confident is a true Christian, and that's Ron Paul of Texas.

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message news:rSysh.62851$qO4.40520@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... > vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote: > >> Only a Condi+Newt ticket can beat Hillary+Obama. >> Newt is Cheney and Rove wrapped into one. > > Cheney and Rove are unelectable... so is Newter. Newt is much more impressed with his own intelligence than anybody else is.

KKKaren Gordon wrote: > "Term Limits Now" (jerry_jn@hotmail.com) writes: >> Very true. Hillary does nothing which is not directed for her >> political gain. Which included staying with Bill. > > (K): She didn't "stay with Bill". She has a separate home, a > separate office, and a separate life. He dates. She dates. Kind of similar to your situation. Don't you find that a bit creepy?

"Semper Libèr" <nopolicestates@freedom4all.org> wrote > There is one person running for president that I am confident is a true > Christian, and that's Ron Paul of Texas. His chances of being drafted by the Vancouver Canucks in 2007 are better than his opportunity to work in the Oval Office.

"Tom" <tom.whelan_remove@rogers.com> wrote in message news:eouhg2$anc$1@news.datemas.de... > > "Semper Libèr" <nopolicestates@freedom4all.org> wrote > > There is one person running for president that I am confident is a true > > Christian, and that's Ron Paul of Texas. > > His chances of being drafted by the Vancouver Canucks in 2007 are better than > his opportunity to work in the Oval Office. Why do you suppose that is?

"The Right One" <tp@bush.usa> wrote in message news:ALxsh.740410$R63.180543@pd7urf1no... > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha So if she wins, you'd have to put it down to voter machine fraud? > > -- > Terry Pearson > http://www.rightpoint.org > Shaping Canada's Destiny > > Dimwit Deilly's latest: > Educated people don't drink > coffee at Tim Horton's > > > The Wisdom of Wajid Khan > 'Tis better to soar with eagles, > then to sit and squawk with > the seagulls. > "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > > > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > > > Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign to become > > the first female U.S. president, announcing Saturday on her website, "I'm > > in. And I'm in to win." > > > > The 59-year-old Democratic New York senator said she was forming an > > "exploratory committee" to run for president and wanted input from the > > public on key issues. > > > > "Let's talk about how to bring the right end to the war in Iraq and to > > restore respect for America around the world, how to make us energy > > independent and free of foreign oil and let's definitely talk about how > > every American can have quality affordable health care." > > > > Among many voters, Clinton is best known for her disastrous attempt in > > 1993 to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. > > > > A few days ago, Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, shook up > > the 2008 race with his bid to become the first African-American to occupy > > the White House. > > > > Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first > > Hispanic to pursue the office, intends to announce his plans on Sunday. > > > > Clinton's husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from > > 1993-2001. > > > > Saturday's announcement is the latest step in a remarkable political and > > personal journey for Hillary Clinton from Arkansas lawyer to first lady > > to New York senator to projected front-runner for the Democratic > > nomination. > > > > A polarizing figure since she burst onto the national scene during her > > husband's first presidential campaign, Clinton engenders strong opinions > > among voters, who either revere or revile her, but are rarely ambivalent. > > > > She is often compared to her husband and found lacking in his natural > > charisma. Others have criticized her for being overly cautious and > > calculating when so many voters say they crave authenticity. > > > > Many Democrats, eager to reclaim the White House after eight years of > > President George W. Bush, fret that she carries too much baggage from her > > husband's scandal-plagued presidency to win a general election. > > > > Supporters cite strong work ethic > > > > Clinton's allies counter by citing her strengths intelligence, depth of > > experience, work ethic and immense command of policy detail. > > > > Advisers argue those skills, plus her popularity among women and younger > > voters, position her strongly as both a primary and general election > > candidate. > > > > In her first run for the Senate from New York in 2000 a state where she > > had never lived and where she was branded a carpetbagger by many Clinton > > won a landslide victory. > > > > Through dogged campaigning including a "listening tour" of the state's 62 > > counties Clinton was able to convince voters even in the conservative > > upstate region that she would represent them effectively in Washington. > > > > Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing military force in Iraq has become a > > significant political challenge angering activists who want her to > > repudiate her vote and aggressively seek to block Bush's proposed troop > > increase. > > > > She has toughened her criticism of the conduct of the war and Bush's > > handling of the conflict, and she recently called for capping troop levels > > in Iraq at around 140,000. > > > > She has rejected calls from liberal groups to cut off funds for Bush's > > planned increase in U.S. troops. > > > > > >

"Semper Libèr" <nopolicestates@freedom4all.org> wrote in message news:sbAsh.171935$hn.10478@edtnps82... > > "Tom" <tom.whelan_remove@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:eouhg2$anc$1@news.datemas.de... >> >> "Semper Libèr" <nopolicestates@freedom4all.org> wrote >> > There is one person running for president that I am confident is a true >> > Christian, and that's Ron Paul of Texas. >> >> His chances of being drafted by the Vancouver Canucks in 2007 are better > than >> his opportunity to work in the Oval Office. > > Why do you suppose that is? > I took the trouble to explain my comment before, and you cut it out in your reply. Why do you suppose that is? >

"Tom" <tom.whelan_remove@rogers.com> wrote in message news:eotutj$jot$1@news.datemas.de... > > "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message > news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... >> CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 >> >> >> Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > Well, I'm confident that Obama has a snowball's chance in a forest fire of > ending up there; just because of his racial background (this isn't Fox's > TV show "24", where they've already had 2 black presidents and not a > single woman yet!). Geese! If you recall when Kennedy ran, the fact that > he was a Catholic was an issue! > The US electorate is a finicky thing which doesn't take kindly to change > all that well. > > Obama also doesn't have the chops for the role as yet either. Hillary has > been on the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services for a while, > not to mention a few other ones which put her in a better position than > Obama, who has almost no experience in areas of foreign affairs in his > career. > > She's also got the recognition factor going for her. > > On the other hand, I haven't heard much about who the Republicans will put > up. It it's Noot, we might as well glue the Whitehouse toilet seats down > now! :) > > But, what do I know? Like you, I'm a Canuck. Even if Barack was putting up serious numbers, you just know he'd end up Paul Wellstoned.

NO! Thanks for playing, Buck "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:eottu3$3ii$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > CBC News - Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > Hillary Clinton launches presidential bid > > Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign to become > the first female U.S. president, announcing Saturday on her website, "I'm > in. And I'm in to win." > > The 59-year-old Democratic New York senator said she was forming an > "exploratory committee" to run for president and wanted input from the > public on key issues. > > "Let's talk about how to bring the right end to the war in Iraq and to > restore respect for America around the world, how to make us energy > independent and free of foreign oil and let's definitely talk about how > every American can have quality affordable health care." > > Among many voters, Clinton is best known for her disastrous attempt in > 1993 to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. > > A few days ago, Senator Barack Obama, a Democrat from Illinois, shook up > the 2008 race with his bid to become the first African-American to occupy > the White House. > > Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who would be the first > Hispanic to pursue the office, intends to announce his plans on Sunday. > > Clinton's husband, Bill, served two terms in the White House from > 1993-2001. > > Saturday's announcement is the latest step in a remarkable political and > personal journey for Hillary Clinton from Arkansas lawyer to first lady > to New York senator to projected front-runner for the Democratic > nomination. > > A polarizing figure since she burst onto the national scene during her > husband's first presidential campaign, Clinton engenders strong opinions > among voters, who either revere or revile her, but are rarely ambivalent. > > She is often compared to her husband and found lacking in his natural > charisma. Others have criticized her for being overly cautious and > calculating when so many voters say they crave authenticity. > > Many Democrats, eager to reclaim the White House after eight years of > President George W. Bush, fret that she carries too much baggage from her > husband's scandal-plagued presidency to win a general election. > > Supporters cite strong work ethic > > Clinton's allies counter by citing her strengths intelligence, depth of > experience, work ethic and immense command of policy detail. > > Advisers argue those skills, plus her popularity among women and younger > voters, position her strongly as both a primary and general election > candidate. > > In her first run for the Senate from New York in 2000 a state where she > had never lived and where she was branded a carpetbagger by many Clinton > won a landslide victory. > > Through dogged campaigning including a "listening tour" of the state's 62 > counties Clinton was able to convince voters even in the conservative > upstate region that she would represent them effectively in Washington. > > Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing military force in Iraq has become a > significant political challenge angering activists who want her to > repudiate her vote and aggressively seek to block Bush's proposed troop > increase. > > She has toughened her criticism of the conduct of the war and Bush's > handling of the conflict, and she recently called for capping troop levels > in Iraq at around 140,000. > > She has rejected calls from liberal groups to cut off funds for Bush's > planned increase in U.S. troops. > >

"Buck" <Buck@buckaroovile@Cowtown.net> wrote in message news:1EAsh.34670$QU1.31663@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > NO! > > Thanks for playing, > > Buck Oh! It's "Buck"! (Plonk)

"bc_nv" <bc_nv@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BrAsh.149490$rv4.22044@edtnps90... > > Even if Barack was putting up serious numbers, you just know he'd end up > Paul Wellstoned. I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name It means Apricot in Hungarian. It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the Applejack equivalent.

"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:12r5omc2tbsacdf@corp.supernews.com... > > "bc_nv" <bc_nv@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:BrAsh.149490$rv4.22044@edtnps90... >> >> Even if Barack was putting up serious numbers, you just know he'd end up Paul >> Wellstoned. > > I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name > It means Apricot in Hungarian. > It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the > Applejack equivalent. > The right wing nut cases accuse him of being a Muslim, when in fact he's a member of The United Church of Christ, a mainstream Protestant Christian denomination. He was first educated in what was earlier known as a Presbyterian college before it became mainstream. It's hilarious how his right wing enemies create bull shit. Some say that he was educated as a Moslem.

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message news:8eDsh.62905$qO4.55883@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... > nc@gntbcr.com wrote: > >> Osama Obama was "first educated" in a madrassa in Indonesia where he >> was being raised. > > Source: The same people who said the Iraqis were a bunch of anthrax > super-muslims who were gonna nuqulurize us with their fleet of robot rockets. Many say that Little Dubya was with his Dad when he was Ambassador to China and Dubya speaks Mandarin, knows Kung-fu and whips up a pretty cool Guy Ding as a result. He only pretends to be a Texan.

Yeah! It's Buck. PLONK!! "Tom" <tom.whelan_remove@rogers.com> wrote in message news:eoul94$c38$1@news.datemas.de... > > "Buck" <Buck@buckaroovile@Cowtown.net> wrote in message > news:1EAsh.34670$QU1.31663@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... >> NO! >> >> Thanks for playing, >> >> Buck > > Oh! It's "Buck"! > > (Plonk) >

KKKaren Gordon wrote: > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > I will feel equality has arrived when we can elect to > office women who are as incompetent as some of the men who are > already there. - M. Reagan > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" If you really believed that, you would be running for office KKKaren. You are about the most incompetent poster in this group and you are, supposedly, female. It should be a no brainer for you to get elected.

"BobR" (reed1@r-a-reed-assoc.com) writes: > You better thank God that they did and I hate HMO's with a passion. I > was one of those who supported her ideas UNTIL I read the details and > realized what a disaster it would have been. If what you want for our > country is a mix between socialism and communism, then by all means > give your full support to Hillary. (K): Wonder why so many of your American citizens are boarding buses and demanding access to CANADA's 'socialist and communst' system of health care, then..... And why Senators, governors, and a host of other U.S. political aspirants are running on platforms that 'they' will 'guarantee access to the Canadian pharmaceutical supply' if they are elected? YOUR country screws up on healthcare and then tries to pillage Canada's 'socialist and communist' national system? Go to hell. Or elect a president that gives you better health coverage than you have now. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name >> It means Apricot in Hungarian. >> It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the (K): In African culture, Barack means 'blessed'. In Hebrew, 'baruch' is also 'blessed'. Hard time for all you rightwingers, isn't it? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"nc@gntbcr.com" (Not PC) writes: > Osama Obama was "first educated" in a madrassa in Indonesia where he > was being raised. You know of any "presbyterian colleges" in > Indonesia. (K): Don't know who your "Osama Obama" might be, but Barack Obama, candidate for President of the United States, was born in Honolulu, lived in Indonesia for only 4 years (ages 6 - 10), and continued his grade school education in Honolulu up to graduation of grade 12. Then 2 years at Occidental College ('occidental' means western), then Columbia University, NY, for political science and international relations, then Harvard for a doctorate degree with magna cum laude. I'd say he was probably the best educated candidate running for President, wouldn't you? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:ep12ab$eps$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > "BobR" (reed1@r-a-reed-assoc.com) writes: > > You better thank God that they did and I hate HMO's with a passion. I > > was one of those who supported her ideas UNTIL I read the details and > > realized what a disaster it would have been. If what you want for our > > country is a mix between socialism and communism, then by all means > > give your full support to Hillary. > > (K): Wonder why so many of your American citizens are boarding buses and > demanding access to CANADA's 'socialist and communst' system of health care, > then..... Good question, considering France has the best healthcare system, while we have massive waiting lists for those that can't afford to fly south. France doesn't seem afraid to have both government and private healthcare. Must be some nutty idea about freedom of choice, eh? > > And why Senators, governors, and a host of other U.S. political aspirants > are running on platforms that 'they' will 'guarantee access to the Canadian > pharmaceutical supply' if they are elected? > > YOUR country screws up on healthcare and then tries to pillage Canada's > 'socialist and communist' national system? Go to hell. Or elect a > president that gives you better health coverage than you have now. > > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " > I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "

In article <ep1371$f72$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote: > > "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name > >> It means Apricot in Hungarian. > >> It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the > > (K): In African culture, Barack means 'blessed'. In Hebrew, 'baruch' is > also 'blessed'. > > Hard time for all you rightwingers, isn't it? > > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, > but most stupid people are conservatives. > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Hillary , Billary We may have two Presidents in office. -- Money.. What a concept!

> In article <ep1371$f72$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, > ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote: > > > "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >> I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name > >> It means Apricot in Hungarian. > >> It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the > > (K): In African culture, Barack means 'blessed'. In Hebrew, 'baruch' is > also 'blessed'. > So what should I care about either It's the Hungarian version that makes me laugh Too bad you're too stupid to get it > Hard time for all you rightwingers, isn't it? > Why would a belly laugh be a hard time ? > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, > but most stupid people are conservatives. > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > You are clear evidence that your claim about conservatives is unfounded

"ITMFA" <georgek@aol.com> wrote in message news:georgek-652C14.18031321012007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net... > In article <ep1371$f72$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, > ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote: > >> > "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> I can't help giggling every time I see Obama's first name >> >> It means Apricot in Hungarian. >> >> It also is slang for Apricot Brandy, not the sweet ligueur, but the >> >> (K): In African culture, Barack means 'blessed'. In Hebrew, 'baruch' is >> also 'blessed'. >> >> Hard time for all you rightwingers, isn't it? >> >> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >> Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, >> but most stupid people are conservatives. >> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > > Hillary , Billary > We may have two Presidents in office. > I don't see Hillary letting Billy-boy fulfil the tradional role of the first spouse I can just imagine him trying to get a blow-job from a touring group of the Daughters of the Revolution. He'd get an umbrella stuck up his ass so fast, even the Secret Service wouldn't be able to stop it Ironically, Billy would get off on it By the way, a billy in Hungarian is a chamber poi. Most a-propos in this case

"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message news:KRDsh.17630$ZT3.11426@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Frederick Bolton wrote: > >> Many say that Little Dubya was with his Dad when he was Ambassador to >> China and Dubya speaks Mandarin, knows Kung-fu and whips up a pretty cool >> Guy Ding as a result. He only pretends to be a Texan. > > In his defense, he's not really a Texan. > He just lived here for a while. I would expect most Texans to say that these days.