Moral Counseling No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime or break the law. To suggest otherwise is incorrect grammar. Having an illness or disease can never cause a person to lose his or her morals, nor is it ever an excuse for breaking the law. While an illness can make a person's body feel bad, an illness cannot make someone feel like a bad person. Every person must be held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. All people are equal under the law. All people are born with a natural love of morals and desire for goodness. To suggest that some people are not, no matter how scientific sounding, is racism and cannot be accepted. Good morals should always be described in an attractive, appealing manner, not as something strict or repressive. The best way to resolve a personal problem is to forgive the people involved and forget about it, not dwell on it.

I agree.......ADVISE our CHRISTIAN TERRORIST AMERICAN GOVT PSYCHOPATHS who are MURDERING MILLIONS AROUND the WORLD to keep us in a PERPETUAL STATE OF FEAR, PARANOIA and SLAVERY. I also request you to ADVISE our PATRIOTIC AMERICAN SOLDIERS to KILL TERRORIST bush and his cronies since they LIED, MANIPULATED and DECEIVED our GREAT NATION and MURDERED 100,000 iraqis. I want to know when will FBI, CIA and NSA will MURDER our BLOODTHIRSTY LYING president bush ? "Economics" <economy@nospam.com> wrote in message news:yNCdnfxn06blaAzYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@comcast.com... > Moral Counseling > No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime or break the > law. To suggest otherwise is incorrect grammar. Having an illness or > disease > can never cause a person to lose his or her morals, nor is it ever an > excuse > for breaking the law. While an illness can make a person's body feel bad, > an > illness cannot make someone feel like a bad person. Every person must be > held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. > > All people are equal under the law. All people are born with a natural > love > of morals and desire for goodness. To suggest that some people are not, no > matter how scientific sounding, is racism and cannot be accepted. > > Good morals should always be described in an attractive, appealing manner, > not as something strict or repressive. The best way to resolve a personal > problem is to forgive the people involved and forget about it, not dwell > on > it. > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[there were too many groups, I had to snip some, hope the one banyan posted to isn't one of them] banyan wrote on alt.california: > Economics wrote: >> Moral Counseling >> No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime >> or break the law. ... Every person must be >> held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. >> > > While I totally agree with most of what you said, I think > illness or intoxication can destroy one's ability to make moral > judgments, which does eliminate your accountability (in the > sense that you can't account for what you did or why). This is > the idea behind people being declared not guilty by reason of > insanity, or "not criminally responsible." > > I know, it's troubling that getting pissed to the gills could be > used to excuse illegal or immoral behaviour, but it is true that > past a point you can't count on being able to make a sound > judgment as to what is good. People generally are less troubled > by the idea that an organic illness can make one morally > incompetent, but if the effect of disease or drugs is the same, > the cause of the addled judgment is not really all that > important. This is really a sticky wicket, I agree with Economics that we are 100 percent responsible for our actions behind drugs or alcohol but I have to draw the line at mental illness because that isn't usually self induced. You are right about how we can act in very stupid ways when we are loaded but we did choose to get loaded and I believe that makes us responsible for any havoc we wreak while operating in a diminished capacity. I advocate legalizing most drugs for adults, and I also believe in taking full responsibility for the choices we make. 'rena -- End the US "Drug War"

Moral Counseling No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime or break the law. To suggest otherwise is incorrect grammar. Having an illness or disease can never cause a person to lose his or her morals, nor is it ever an excuse for breaking the law. While an illness can make a person's body feel bad, an illness cannot make someone feel like a bad person. Every person must be held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. All people are equal under the law. All people are born with a natural love of morals and desire for goodness. To suggest that some people are not, no matter how scientific sounding, is racism and cannot be accepted. Good morals should always be described in an attractive, appealing manner, not as something strict or repressive. The best way to resolve a personal problem is to forgive the people involved and forget about it, not dwell on it.

I agree.......ADVISE our CHRISTIAN TERRORIST AMERICAN GOVT PSYCHOPATHS who are MURDERING MILLIONS AROUND the WORLD to keep us in a PERPETUAL STATE OF FEAR, PARANOIA and SLAVERY. I also request you to ADVISE our PATRIOTIC AMERICAN SOLDIERS to KILL TERRORIST bush and his cronies since they LIED, MANIPULATED and DECEIVED our GREAT NATION and MURDERED 100,000 iraqis. I want to know when will FBI, CIA and NSA will MURDER our BLOODTHIRSTY LYING president bush ? "Economics" <economy@nospam.com> wrote in message news:yNCdnfxn06blaAzYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@comcast.com... > Moral Counseling > No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime or break the > law. To suggest otherwise is incorrect grammar. Having an illness or > disease > can never cause a person to lose his or her morals, nor is it ever an > excuse > for breaking the law. While an illness can make a person's body feel bad, > an > illness cannot make someone feel like a bad person. Every person must be > held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. > > All people are equal under the law. All people are born with a natural > love > of morals and desire for goodness. To suggest that some people are not, no > matter how scientific sounding, is racism and cannot be accepted. > > Good morals should always be described in an attractive, appealing manner, > not as something strict or repressive. The best way to resolve a personal > problem is to forgive the people involved and forget about it, not dwell > on > it. > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[there were too many groups, I had to snip some, hope the one banyan posted to isn't one of them] banyan wrote on alt.california: > Economics wrote: >> Moral Counseling >> No illness, drugs or alcohol can make a person commit a crime >> or break the law. ... Every person must be >> held fully accountable for any crime he or she commits. >> > > While I totally agree with most of what you said, I think > illness or intoxication can destroy one's ability to make moral > judgments, which does eliminate your accountability (in the > sense that you can't account for what you did or why). This is > the idea behind people being declared not guilty by reason of > insanity, or "not criminally responsible." > > I know, it's troubling that getting pissed to the gills could be > used to excuse illegal or immoral behaviour, but it is true that > past a point you can't count on being able to make a sound > judgment as to what is good. People generally are less troubled > by the idea that an organic illness can make one morally > incompetent, but if the effect of disease or drugs is the same, > the cause of the addled judgment is not really all that > important. This is really a sticky wicket, I agree with Economics that we are 100 percent responsible for our actions behind drugs or alcohol but I have to draw the line at mental illness because that isn't usually self induced. You are right about how we can act in very stupid ways when we are loaded but we did choose to get loaded and I believe that makes us responsible for any havoc we wreak while operating in a diminished capacity. I advocate legalizing most drugs for adults, and I also believe in taking full responsibility for the choices we make. 'rena -- End the US "Drug War"