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Subject: Hemlock vs. Belladonna
From: rastapasta
Date: 1/14/2007 12:10:49 AM
"Prophet" <hitorogoshi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168468489.804715.257090@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe slightly off the topic of chemistry......
>
> Hemlock (Conium maculatum) and Belladonna (Atropa Belladonna) are both
> traditionally regarded as poisons. There are many instances of this
> throughout what is regarded as both history and folklore - Socrates'
> execution and his volunatary ingestion of a cup of hemlock juice, or
> the traditional use of Deadly Nightshade by witches in their
> cococtions are two that would come straight to mind.....
>
> The active poisonous ingredients in both are the alkaloids coniine and
> atropine respectively, though my question is this - does anyone have
> information regarding which is the most virulant of the two?? I know
> atropine in small doses is supposed to have psychoactive properties,
> but same is true for a lot of poisons.
>
> Is extract of coniine derived from the roots of poison hemlock more
> dangerous in terms of its poisonous effect on humans, as opposed to an
> extract of
> atropine, similarly extracted from Nightshade??
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
The human LD of atropine is at least 100mg & in children a few milligrams
[http://www.emea.eu.int/pdfs/vet/mrls/054098en.pdf], but the LD50 for
hemlock is unknown.
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