crsds wrote... External things cannot move you, and sane energy gradually arises. When consciousness of reality is constantly present, arbitrary feelings evaporate and true sense emerges, always responsive yet always calm, like true earth grabbing true lead so that the lead does not sink." When "arbitrary feelings evaporate" means you lose your shitty ego any questions? :) this is when your heart can uncoil. Not one second before. ### - if you mean that one ceases to identify with false/fabricated ideas of self (arbitrary because one could just as easily become a milkman as a scientist in sociological terms)... then yes :)