Group: alt.dreams.castaneda




Subject: Ismail Ax
From: chris
Date: 4/19/2007 2:17:45 AM
Demo Hassan does a wild rant: To which i say: there is impermanence but there is no finish line. so ya just might as well live like a mofo and don't look back. Why? Because you can't even if you wanted to. It's always been 'now' and always will be.

Subject: Ismail Ax
From: Supertech
Date: 4/19/2007 5:30:31 PM
Ishmael's ax destroys the Idol made of Golden plated Cow and made Palestinian people to convert to God worshipping. Golden cow is a symbol of worshipping debauchery. Evangelical's didn't do a good job of spreading the true message of the Bible. The whole society is ill and numbed down. There is no true morality of right and wrong. He is a product of this sick society, modern day Babylonia. "CL" <charles_liu@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1176948087.087920.16650@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 18, 6:42 pm, Demo Hassan <demohas...@yahoo.com.mx> wrote: > > President Bush invokes shooting, right to bear arms.http://tinyurl.com/2kxs8z > > Almost exactly six hours after the first shots were fired. > > Six hours later, Bush wanted to reaffirm his position on > > the right to bear arms. As one commenter pointed out, > > the bodies weren't even cold yet.http://vtechmemorial.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html > > > > Seung-hui Cho, the 23-year-old Virginia Tech psychopathhttp://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/9861.html > > had the words "Ismail-Ax" scribbled in red ink on his arm. > > Do these words mean anything? > > It's Cho's Counter Strike handle. It's also an Old Testament reference > (found in Islam as may have already pointed out.) Cho is probably a > Christian as most Korean immigrant population in US are Christians. > > Just heard on TV some footages Cho sent to NBC. Cho said he "wanted to > die like Jesus". Does that sound like a Christian or Muslin? > > > > > According to Strong's Dictionary, > > the name "Ishmael" literally translates > > as "God will hear." > > > > MOBY DICK an 1851 novel by Herman Melvillehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby-Dick > > [Excerpt] :http://www.princeton.edu/~batke/moby/moby_001.html > > Chapter i - LOOMINGS > > page 1 > > "Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind > > how long precisely - having little or no money in > > my purse, and nothing particular to interest me > > on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and > > see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have > > of driving off the spleen, and regulating the > > circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim > > about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly > > November in my soul; whenever I find myself > > involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, > > and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; > > and especially whenever my hypos get such an > > upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral > > principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping > > into the street, and methodically knocking people's > > hats off - then, I account it high time to get to sea > > as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol > > and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws > > himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. > > There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, > > almost all men in their degree, some time or other, > > cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the > > ocean with me."http://www.princeton.edu/~batke/moby/moby_001.html > > > > No one is sure as of yet what the phrase "IsmailAx" means.http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009715.php > > It appears to be a reference to Abraham/Ibrahim, > > in whichIsmailand Abraham take an axe to the idols > > of a temple as part of his conversion to monotheism. > > Is this a cryptic reference to Islamist or Christian radicalism? > > It certainly suggests one of the two. > > "Hot Air" has a more compelling theory: > > in James Fennimore Cooper's story "The Prairie," > > the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to > > escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie > > with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a > > symbolic meaning. The axe -- which can either > > kill or provide shelter -- stands for both > > creation and destruction.http://www.bibliomania.com/0/0/23/51/frameset.html > > > > "YoungIsmailand his mother > > alone in the desert of Makkah"http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm > > > > "Went where they'd herded goats when they were kids, > > Went where they were lovers, > > Went where they were married here, those fifty years ago. > > Traces of Ishmael'saxon the scarred trunks of the cedar trees, > > Crossing the canyons and winding arroyos. > > -- Drum Hadley, the 1960s beat poet." > > The poem is called the "The Goat Ranchers" > > > > Americans Kidnap South Korean Boy 1971http://crimeblog.us/?p=370 > > "... young boy went missing in 1971, > > the people searched for the boy by word > > of mouth; the Asian Intelligence Agency (AIA) > > put a stop on all media and threatened to kill > > anyone who continued to pursue the issue of > > the missing boy.ismailAx."http://crimeblog.us/?p=370 > > > > Brain Scans of Psychopathshttp://tinyurl.com/2kxs8z > > > > $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& $& > > > > "Hope is important because it > > can make the present moment less difficult > > to bear. If we believe that tomorrow will be > > better, we can bear a hardship today." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "We have more possibilities available > > in each moment than we realize." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "Breath is the bridge which connects > > life to consciousness, which unites > > your body to your thoughts." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "Because of your smile, you make > > life more beautiful." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "The most precious gift we can offer > > others is our presence. When mindfulness > > embraces those we love, they will bloom like flowers." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "Smile, breathe and go slowly" > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "People usually consider walking on water > > or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle > > is not to walk either on water or in thin air, but to walk > > on earth. Every day we are engaged in a miracle > > which we don't even recognize: a blue sky, white clouds, > > green leaves, the black, curious eyes of a child -- our > > own two eyes. All is a miracle." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "Life can be found only in the present moment. > > The past is gone, the future is not yet here, and if > > we do not go back to ourselves in the present > > moment, we cannot be in touch with life." > > > > "If our love is only a will to possess, it is not love." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > "In order to rally people, governments > > need enemies. They want us to be afraid, > > to hate, so we will rally behind them. And if > > they do not have a real enemy, they will > > invent one in order to mobilize us." > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh > > > > Thich Nhat Hanh quotes > > Vietnamese Monk, > > Activist and Writer. born: 1926 > > > > 40 years ago [Thich Nhat Hanh] wrote a poem: > > [This poem in English is called the "Mendicant of Old"] > > www.plumvillage.org/ -- www.parallax.org/ > > > > "Being mist, being mind, being the mesons > > travelling among galaxies at the > > speed of light, > > > > you have come here my beloved one and > > your blue eyes shine so beautifully, so deep. > > > > You have taken the path raised for you by > > the non-beginning and the never ending, > > > > you say that on your way here you have > > gone through millions of births and deaths. > > > > Innumerable times you have been > > transformed into fire storms in outer space, > > > > you have used your own body to measure > > the age of mountains and rivers. > > > > You have manifested yourself as trees, > > grass, butterflies, single celled beings, > > and as chrysanthemums. > > > > But the eyes with which you look at me > > this morning tell me that you have never died, > > > > your smile invites me into the game whose > > beginning no-one knows, the game of hide > > and seek. > > > > Oh green caterpillar you are > > solemnly using your body > > > > to measure the length of the rose branch > > that grew last summer, > > > > everyone says that you my beloved > > were just born this spring. > > > > Tell me, how long have you been around? > > > > Why wait until this moment to > > reveal yourself to me > > > > carrying with you that smile which > > is so silent and so deep. > > > > Oh caterpillar, suns, moons, and > > stars flow out each time I exhale, > > > > who knows that the infinitely large > > must be found in your tiny body. > > > > Upon each on your body thousands of > > Buddha-fields have been established, > > > > and with each stretch of your body you > > measure time from the non-beginning > > to the never-ending. > > > > The great mendicant of old is still there > > on the Vulture Peak contemplating the > > ever-splendid sunset, > > > > Gautama how strange, who says that > > the Udambara flower blooms once > > every three thousand years. > > > > The sound of the rising tide, > > you can not help hearing it > > if you have an attentive ear. > > > > [This was written in 1968, by Thich Nhat Hanh] > > www.plumvillage.org/ -- www.parallax.org/ > >

Subject: Ismail Ax
From: Supertech
Date: 4/20/2007 3:05:06 PM
"Jeremy H. Donovan" <JeremyHDonovan@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1177083417.246834.321600@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > On Apr 19, 10:30 am, "Supertech" <ejo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Ishmael's ax destroys the Idol made of Golden plated Cow and made > > Palestinian people to convert to God worshipping. Golden cow is a symbol of > > worshipping debauchery. > > Ishmael in Moby Dick is the one who survives, and the Biblical Ishmael > was the patriarch of a living civilization. All this punk did was > kill people and die. > > > > > Evangelical's didn't do a good job of spreading the true message of the > > Bible. > > Good, because the 'true message' - aside from a basic morality humans > inherently understood for tens of thousands of years before the Bible > existed - is a lot of superstitious crap. > > > > > The whole society is ill and numbed down. There is no true morality of right > > and wrong. > > Actually, the closest we'll ever come to having 'a true morality of > right and wrong' is already happening all around you every single > day. It evolved and continues to evolve naturally, just like > everything else did, and does. > > > > > He is a product of this sick society, modern day Babylonia. > > While there were no doubt a variety of influences on his life, just as > there are on everyone else's, he was *mainly* a product of his own > sick mind. So may be the case with Mary Winkler. Why is there so much sympathy for her and not for Cho? Does anybody know what he has gone through in his deep mind? Or do you think you DON'T HAVE TO KNOW because he is not your kind? Racial kookery must stop !!!!!

Subject: Ismail Ax
From: chris
Date: 4/21/2007 7:17:34 AM
"Demo Hassan" > How WIDE is NOW? In between eternity and infinity. Look up tonight at dark, and you will see it. :)